If you're a "skater" and you haven't seen/ know what either of these are you need to shut your white ass up and fucking watch it. What the hell happened to skating? It used to be about oppression, standing out, punk music, etc! Now every "skater" i've met is sexist, homophobic, and racist. It's sickening. And half of you motherfuckers can't do a kick flip right. Telling me i have a Wal Mart board, my shit is and classic Steve Caballero board that cost $200!!!!! Get fucked!